[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members

Nick Cocchiarella tubacooch at gmail.com
Thu Jul 3 22:35:11 CDT 2008 

I actually can understand what those veterans are talking about, 
if I fought in world war II I would want world peace all my life.  
I'm sure it was a living hell for them, just as it was for their 
families, and the same rules apply for the soldiers and families 
of soldiers in Iraq today.  Those soldiers aren't dying just 
because they were caught in a freak accident, they go there 
knowing what they are going to face, and they know that they will 
never be the same again once they come out of it, if they come 
out of it... but they do it for the good of our country, just as 
the UK, Australian, or South African (yes Hanif) would, and don't 
think they wouldn't.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap at gwi.net
>To: users at zonebbs.com
>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:17:22 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military 
Members

>Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) are
>the Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you:
>how many of those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How
>many were saved by American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about
>the good we have done over there, only the bad because it sells
>better.  Are you telling me that it was okay to let Sadam keep
>killing his own people, as long as it was not US doing the
>killing? Do you think we should go in and help Africa, namely
>Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by
>people and my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the
>difference? People attack Bush for not helping other areas, but
>if he did, you know as well as I that when a perfect solution was
>not realized within a year or two the exact same thing would
>happen as is happening with Iraq now.
>No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had
>the time to go through them all.  Besides, those types of links
>are like gathering evidence against abortion from sites where
>only people who regret abortion write; it is extremely bias.  I
>do not see how you can provide evidence against war by using
>groups like Veterans for Peace; of course they are against the
>war, they have fought a war and want peace.  It kind of makes
>sense, huh?

>Have a great day,
>Alex

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>Members

>>Dear Person

>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives?  Do
>you say
>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
>land of Iraq?
>>Did Iraq attack you?

>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.

>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.

>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
>for the most
>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there.  Note that
>young
>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
>kind for
>>standing up for justice.

>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more?  $3.7 for one
>Kuwayti
>>Dinar.  You are doing something wrong, somewhere.  Start by
>looking at
>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.

>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.

>>Courage To Resist
>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/

>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>http://www.gsfp.org/

>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>http://www.ivaw.net/

>>Military Families Speak Out
>>http://www.mfso.org/

>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>http://www.vaiw.org/

>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/

>>Veterans for Peace
>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/

>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>http://www.vvaw.org/

>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>http://vvaf.org/

>>VotersForPeace
>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/

>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.

>>Hanif Kruger

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>Members


>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>> especially the people that keep my country free.  I am part of
>the Civil
>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
>Air Force
>>> as I can get.  It has given me many opportunities, though, and
>my best
>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
>stranger to the
>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
>-women
>>> should take a turn serving.  As far as Iyana's comment about
>soldiers
>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
>What about
>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
>"But who are
>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying.  I think that
>all humans
>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
>3,000
>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
>children into
>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
>people just
>>> because they do not believe the same things you do.  "But you
>just said
>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
>because they do
>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite.  When someone
>lives a life
>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
>consider them
>>> an enemy.  Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
>for a few
>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
>murderers
>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
>the world
>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
>Go ahead
>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
>watch
>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
>to come
>>> back with a response of my own.  For the record, I believe in
>capital
>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
>military, in
>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
>sanctity of
>>> life (when deserved), and in God.  I will end this here before I
>think of
>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
>agree with
>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
>case that is
>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.

>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>> Members

>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>> thank you hahaha!

>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed.  I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>> the
>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>> shits
>>>>> about it.  And I'm happy, too.  Makes me feel lighter not to
>>> give
>>>>> a damn.  Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now.  LOL
>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>> are
>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>> No, that's a generalization.  Though I believe there may be real
>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>> Iyana
>>>>> Iyana

>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>> Members

>>>>>>Yo Sup

>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>you are in the US military.  That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.

>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site.  I
>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>with anymore of your species.

>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.

>>>>>>Lmfao


>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>> Members


>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose.  Come up with
>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let you
>>>>>>> on.  I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story.  Plus,
>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?

>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>> Members


>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site or
>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned.  I
>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>> site.
>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put their
>>>>>>> lives on the line for them.  It's been nice knowing everyone for
>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>> place.  I will find some way to make sure that noone else I know
>>>>>>> ever visits this site.  Have a good day.



>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---------------


>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>>> Users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>> http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users

>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>Users mailing list
>>>>>>Users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>> Users at zonebbs.com
>>>>> http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users



>>>>--
>>>>Alexandria Davis
>>>>Senior Member Tech Admin Officer 119th Air National Guard Cadet
>>>>Squadron CAP, The United States Air Force Auxiliary
>>>>http://www.happyhooligans.org
>>>>http://www.cap.gov
>>>>American Military University Student Sociology Major and Military
>>> History Minor
>>>>Bugles Across America
>>>>North Dakota State Director
>>>>Phone: 701-540-5555
>>>>Honor Guard Bugler
>>>>http://www.buglesacrossamerica.org
>>>>Beginning Member Company of Fifers and Drummers
>>>>http://www.companyoffifeanddrum.org/
>>>>Milford Fife and Drum Corps Honorary Member
>>>>Bagpipe Soloist Midwest Pipe Band Association Beginning
>>> Competitor
>>>>http://www.honorguardbugler.com
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>Users mailing list
>>>>Users at zonebbs.com
>>>>http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users

>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Users mailing list
>>> Users at zonebbs.com
>>> http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users


>>_______________________________________________
>>Users mailing list
>>Users at zonebbs.com
>>http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users

>_______________________________________________
>Users mailing list
>Users at zonebbs.com
>http://www.zonebbs.com/mailman/listinfo/users

More information about the Users mailing list