[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members

Fri Jul 4 05:26:41 CDT 2008

Not me, Veterans are admitting that, Iraqi's and the world knows it.  It's 
not for me to say.  I only observe.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net>
To: <users at zonebbs.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members


> Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) are the 
> Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you: how many of 
> those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How many were saved by 
> American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about the good we have done over 
> there, only the bad because it sells better.  Are you telling me that it 
> was okay to let Sadam keep killing his own people, as long as it was not 
> US doing the killing? Do you think we should go in and help Africa, namely 
> Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by people and 
> my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the difference? People 
> attack Bush for not helping other areas, but if he did, you know as well 
> as I that when a perfect solution was not realized within a year or two 
> the exact same thing would happen as is happening with Iraq now.
> No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had the time 
> to go through them all.  Besides, those types of links are like gathering 
> evidence against abortion from sites where only people who regret abortion 
> write; it is extremely bias.  I do not see how you can provide evidence 
> against war by using groups like Veterans for Peace; of course they are 
> against the war, they have fought a war and want peace.  It kind of makes 
> sense, huh?
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
> Members
>
>>Dear Person
>
>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives?  Do
> you say
>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
> land of Iraq?
>>Did Iraq attack you?
>
>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.
>
>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.
>
>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
> for the most
>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there.  Note that
> young
>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
> kind for
>>standing up for justice.
>
>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more?  $3.7 for one
> Kuwayti
>>Dinar.  You are doing something wrong, somewhere.  Start by
> looking at
>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.
>
>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.
>
>>Courage To Resist
>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/
>
>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>http://www.gsfp.org/
>
>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>http://www.ivaw.net/
>
>>Military Families Speak Out
>>http://www.mfso.org/
>
>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>http://www.vaiw.org/
>
>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/
>
>>Veterans for Peace
>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
>
>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>http://www.vvaw.org/
>
>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>http://vvaf.org/
>
>>VotersForPeace
>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/
>
>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.
>
>>Hanif Kruger
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
> Members
>
>
>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>> especially the people that keep my country free.  I am part of
> the Civil
>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
> Air Force
>>> as I can get.  It has given me many opportunities, though, and
> my best
>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
> stranger to the
>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
> -women
>>> should take a turn serving.  As far as Iyana's comment about
> soldiers
>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
> What about
>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
> "But who are
>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying.  I think that
> all humans
>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
> 3,000
>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
> children into
>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
> people just
>>> because they do not believe the same things you do.  "But you
> just said
>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
> because they do
>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite.  When someone
> lives a life
>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
> consider them
>>> an enemy.  Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
> for a few
>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
> murderers
>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
> the world
>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
> Go ahead
>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
> watch
>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
> to come
>>> back with a response of my own.  For the record, I believe in
> capital
>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
> military, in
>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
> sanctity of
>>> life (when deserved), and in God.  I will end this here before I
> think of
>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
> agree with
>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
> case that is
>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.
>
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex
>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>> Members
>
>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>> thank you hahaha!
>
>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed.  I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>> the
>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>> shits
>>>>> about it.  And I'm happy, too.  Makes me feel lighter not to
>>> give
>>>>> a damn.  Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now.  LOL
>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>> are
>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>> No, that's a generalization.  Though I believe there may be real
>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>> Iyana
>>>>> Iyana
>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>> Members
>
>>>>>>Yo Sup
>
>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>you are in the US military.  That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.
>
>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site.  I
>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>with anymore of your species.
>
>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.
>
>>>>>>Lmfao
>
>
>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>> Members
>
>
>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose.  Come up with
>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let you
>>>>>>> on.  I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story.  Plus,
>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?
>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>> Members
>
>
>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site or
>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned.  I
>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>> site.
>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put their
>>>>>>> lives on the line for them.  It's been nice knowing everyone for
>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>> place.  I will find some way to make sure that noone else I know
>>>>>>> ever visits this site.  Have a good day.
>
>
>
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>>>>American Military University Student Sociology Major and Military
>>> History Minor
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