[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members

Alex Hall mehgcap at gwi.net
Fri Jul 4 05:53:28 CDT 2008 

Because I am very good friends with a man who has served in Iraq, 
and another very good friend has served there with the army 
Rangers as a sniper.

Have a great day,
Alex

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:20:51 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military 
Members

>Many of the US soldiers are still wet behind the ears; hardly out 
of
>schooled, having been lied to about what they are fighting for.

>I'm not going to argue about intentions and such, since you 
clearly have not
>read any of the sites wich I have suggested.  Organizations that 
are all
>against the occupation of Iraq.  While I am at it,  why don't you 
go and
>listen to testomony by real men, real veterans that served in 
Iraq?  just go
>to http://www.WarComesHome.orgg

>If you going to comment any further, first do so after having 
listened to
>the testomony on there.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:11 AM
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military 
Members


>>I know where they are coming from, I am simply saying that using
>>organizations like that to support an anti-war sentiment is like 
asking for
>>support for gun control laws from people who hate guns.

>> Have a great day,
>> Alex

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Nick Cocchiarella <tubacooch at gmail.com
>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:35:11 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>> Members

>>>I actually can understand what those veterans are talking about,
>>>if I fought in world war II I would want world peace all my life.
>>>I'm sure it was a living hell for them, just as it was for their
>>>families, and the same rules apply for the soldiers and families
>>>of soldiers in Iraq today.  Those soldiers aren't dying just
>>>because they were caught in a freak accident, they go there
>>>knowing what they are going to face, and they know that they will
>>>never be the same again once they come out of it, if they come
>>>out of it...  but they do it for the good of our country, just as
>>>the UK, Australian, or South African (yes Hanif) would, and don't
>>>think they wouldn't.

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:17:22 -0400
>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>Members

>>>>Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) are
>>>>the Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you:
>>>>how many of those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How
>>>>many were saved by American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about
>>>>the good we have done over there, only the bad because it sells
>>>>better.  Are you telling me that it was okay to let Sadam keep
>>>>killing his own people, as long as it was not US doing the
>>>>killing? Do you think we should go in and help Africa, namely
>>>>Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by
>>>>people and my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the
>>>>difference? People attack Bush for not helping other areas, but
>>>>if he did, you know as well as I that when a perfect solution was
>>>>not realized within a year or two the exact same thing would
>>>>happen as is happening with Iraq now.
>>>>No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had
>>>>the time to go through them all.  Besides, those types of links
>>>>are like gathering evidence against abortion from sites where
>>>>only people who regret abortion write; it is extremely bias.  I
>>>>do not see how you can provide evidence against war by using
>>>>groups like Veterans for Peace; of course they are against the
>>>>war, they have fought a war and want peace.  It kind of makes
>>>>sense, huh?

>>>>Have a great day,
>>>>Alex

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>Members

>>>>>Dear Person

>>>>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives?  Do
>>>>you say
>>>>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
>>>>land of Iraq?
>>>>>Did Iraq attack you?

>>>>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.

>>>>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.

>>>>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
>>>>for the most
>>>>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there.  Note that
>>>>young
>>>>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
>>>>kind for
>>>>>standing up for justice.

>>>>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more?  $3.7 for one
>>>>Kuwayti
>>>>>Dinar.  You are doing something wrong, somewhere.  Start by
>>>>looking at
>>>>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.

>>>>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.

>>>>>Courage To Resist
>>>>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/

>>>>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>>>>http://www.gsfp.org/

>>>>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>>>>http://www.ivaw.net/

>>>>>Military Families Speak Out
>>>>>http://www.mfso.org/

>>>>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>>>>http://www.vaiw.org/

>>>>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>>>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/

>>>>>Veterans for Peace
>>>>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/

>>>>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>>>>http://www.vvaw.org/

>>>>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>>>>http://vvaf.org/

>>>>>VotersForPeace
>>>>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/

>>>>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.

>>>>>Hanif Kruger

>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>Members


>>>>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>>>>> especially the people that keep my country free.  I am part of
>>>>the Civil
>>>>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
>>>>Air Force
>>>>>> as I can get.  It has given me many opportunities, though, and
>>>>my best
>>>>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
>>>>stranger to the
>>>>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
>>>>-women
>>>>>> should take a turn serving.  As far as Iyana's comment about
>>>>soldiers
>>>>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
>>>>What about
>>>>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
>>>>"But who are
>>>>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying.  I think that
>>>>all humans
>>>>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
>>>>3,000
>>>>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
>>>>children into
>>>>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
>>>>people just
>>>>>> because they do not believe the same things you do.  "But you
>>>>just said
>>>>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
>>>>because they do
>>>>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite.  When someone
>>>>lives a life
>>>>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
>>>>consider them
>>>>>> an enemy.  Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
>>>>for a few
>>>>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
>>>>murderers
>>>>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
>>>>the world
>>>>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
>>>>Go ahead
>>>>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
>>>>watch
>>>>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
>>>>to come
>>>>>> back with a response of my own.  For the record, I believe in
>>>>capital
>>>>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
>>>>military, in
>>>>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
>>>>sanctity of
>>>>>> life (when deserved), and in God.  I will end this here before I
>>>>think of
>>>>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
>>>>agree with
>>>>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
>>>>case that is
>>>>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.

>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex

>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>>>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>> Members

>>>>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>>>>> thank you hahaha!

>>>>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed.  I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>>>>> shits
>>>>>>>> about it.  And I'm happy, too.  Makes me feel lighter not to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> a damn.  Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now.  LOL
>>>>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>>>>> No, that's a generalization.  Though I believe there may be real
>>>>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>>>>> Iyana

>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>> Members

>>>>>>>>>Yo Sup

>>>>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>>>>you are in the US military.  That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.

>>>>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site.  I
>>>>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>>>>with anymore of your species.

>>>>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.

>>>>>>>>>Lmfao


>>>>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>> Members


>>>>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose.  Come up with
>>>>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let you
>>>>>>>>>> on.  I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story.  Plus,
>>>>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?

>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>> Members


>>>>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site or
>>>>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned.  I
>>>>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put their
>>>>>>>>>> lives on the line for them.  It's been nice knowing everyone for
>>>>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>>>>> place.  I will find some way to make sure that noone else I know
>>>>>>>>>> ever visits this site.  Have a good day.



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