[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members

Alex Hall mehgcap at gwi.net
Fri Jul 4 05:53:31 CDT 2008 

Not you what?

Have a great day,
Alex

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:26:41 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military 
Members

>Not me, Veterans are admitting that, Iraqi's and the world knows 
it.  It's
>not for me to say.  I only observe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military 
Members


>> Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) 
are the
>> Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you: 
how many of
>> those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How many were 
saved by
>> American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about the good we have 
done over
>> there, only the bad because it sells better.  Are you telling me 
that it
>> was okay to let Sadam keep killing his own people, as long as it 
was not
>> US doing the killing? Do you think we should go in and help 
Africa, namely
>> Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by 
people and
>> my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the 
difference? People
>> attack Bush for not helping other areas, but if he did, you know 
as well
>> as I that when a perfect solution was not realized within a year 
or two
>> the exact same thing would happen as is happening with Iraq now.
>> No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had 
the time
>> to go through them all.  Besides, those types of links are like 
gathering
>> evidence against abortion from sites where only people who 
regret abortion
>> write; it is extremely bias.  I do not see how you can provide 
evidence
>> against war by using groups like Veterans for Peace; of course 
they are
>> against the war, they have fought a war and want peace.  It kind 
of makes
>> sense, huh?

>> Have a great day,
>> Alex

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>> Members

>>>Dear Person

>>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives?  Do
>> you say
>>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
>> land of Iraq?
>>>Did Iraq attack you?

>>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.

>>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.

>>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
>> for the most
>>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there.  Note that
>> young
>>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
>> kind for
>>>standing up for justice.

>>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more?  $3.7 for one
>> Kuwayti
>>>Dinar.  You are doing something wrong, somewhere.  Start by
>> looking at
>>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.

>>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.

>>>Courage To Resist
>>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/

>>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>>http://www.gsfp.org/

>>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>>http://www.ivaw.net/

>>>Military Families Speak Out
>>>http://www.mfso.org/

>>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>>http://www.vaiw.org/

>>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/

>>>Veterans for Peace
>>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/

>>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>>http://www.vvaw.org/

>>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>>http://vvaf.org/

>>>VotersForPeace
>>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/

>>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.

>>>Hanif Kruger

>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>> Members


>>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>>> especially the people that keep my country free.  I am part of
>> the Civil
>>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
>> Air Force
>>>> as I can get.  It has given me many opportunities, though, and
>> my best
>>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
>> stranger to the
>>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
>> -women
>>>> should take a turn serving.  As far as Iyana's comment about
>> soldiers
>>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
>> What about
>>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
>> "But who are
>>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying.  I think that
>> all humans
>>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
>> 3,000
>>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
>> children into
>>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
>> people just
>>>> because they do not believe the same things you do.  "But you
>> just said
>>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
>> because they do
>>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite.  When someone
>> lives a life
>>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
>> consider them
>>>> an enemy.  Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
>> for a few
>>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
>> murderers
>>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
>> the world
>>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
>> Go ahead
>>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
>> watch
>>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
>> to come
>>>> back with a response of my own.  For the record, I believe in
>> capital
>>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
>> military, in
>>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
>> sanctity of
>>>> life (when deserved), and in God.  I will end this here before I
>> think of
>>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
>> agree with
>>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
>> case that is
>>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.

>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>> Members

>>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>>> thank you hahaha!

>>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed.  I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>>> the
>>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>>> shits
>>>>>> about it.  And I'm happy, too.  Makes me feel lighter not to
>>>> give
>>>>>> a damn.  Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now.  LOL
>>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>>> are
>>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>>> No, that's a generalization.  Though I believe there may be real
>>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>>> Iyana

>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>> Members

>>>>>>>Yo Sup

>>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>>you are in the US military.  That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.

>>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site.  I
>>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>>with anymore of your species.

>>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.

>>>>>>>Lmfao


>>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>> Members


>>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose.  Come up with
>>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let you
>>>>>>>> on.  I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story.  Plus,
>>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?

>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>> Members


>>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site or
>>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned.  I
>>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put their
>>>>>>>> lives on the line for them.  It's been nice knowing everyone for
>>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>>> place.  I will find some way to make sure that noone else I know
>>>>>>>> ever visits this site.  Have a good day.



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