[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members

[Davis, Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ]

I am in the Air Force Auxiliary thank you very much and we save lives!
You don't have to be in combat to be part of the military!

On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
> once again, you don't know anything about my family and you haven't fought
> anywhere yourself.  Having someone in your family killing inocent people in
> a foreign land, does not, in my opinion make you all wise and better than
> the next person.
>
> So, read and listen to those veterans from your own country; people with
> integrity.
>
> I've never claimed that I fought in Iraq for a terrorist state, such as the
> one of wich you are a citizen, and I'm proud of the fact that I've not
> served in a foreign land.
>
> And that, dear friend, is my view.
>
> Getting all personal about it doesn't make what you are saying any more
> valid..
>
> Have a lovely day further.
> Hanif Kruger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com>
> To: <users at zonebbs.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members
>
>
>> Once again, if you have never fought or been in a military family, you
>> have no clue what the heck you're talking about!
>>
>> On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruiger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>>> Wow, you surely read through the site with speed.  congratulations.
>>>
>>> So, are all veterans in iraq your friends?
>>>
>>> I'm not arguing, but, most of you seem rather, stubborn?  Brain washed?
>>> If
>>> you don't like what I say, then, hell, at least take a breather and don't
>>> get too excited when typing.  Ask your docter, maybe their's some drug to
>>> keep you calm, when responding to email. JJ
>>>
>>> Have a lovely day further.Hanif
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net>
>>> To: <users at zonebbs.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members
>>>
>>>
>>>> Because I am very good friends with a man who has served in Iraq, and
>>>> another very good friend has served there with the army Rangers as a
>>>> sniper.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:20:51 +0200
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>>Many of the US soldiers are still wet behind the ears; hardly out
>>>> of
>>>>>schooled, having been lied to about what they are fighting for.
>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to argue about intentions and such, since you
>>>> clearly have not
>>>>>read any of the sites wich I have suggested.  Organizations that
>>>> are all
>>>>>against the occupation of Iraq.  While I am at it,  why don't you
>>>> go and
>>>>>listen to testomony by real men, real veterans that served in
>>>> Iraq?  just go
>>>>>to http://www.WarComesHome.orgg
>>>>
>>>>>If you going to comment any further, first do so after having
>>>> listened to
>>>>>the testomony on there.
>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I know where they are coming from, I am simply saying that using
>>>>>>organizations like that to support an anti-war sentiment is like
>>>> asking for
>>>>>>support for gun control laws from people who hate guns.
>>>>
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: Nick Cocchiarella <tubacooch at gmail.com
>>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:35:11 -0500
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>>>>I actually can understand what those veterans are talking about,
>>>>>>>if I fought in world war II I would want world peace all my life.
>>>>>>>I'm sure it was a living hell for them, just as it was for their
>>>>>>>families, and the same rules apply for the soldiers and families
>>>>>>>of soldiers in Iraq today.  Those soldiers aren't dying just
>>>>>>>because they were caught in a freak accident, they go there
>>>>>>>knowing what they are going to face, and they know that they will
>>>>>>>never be the same again once they come out of it, if they come
>>>>>>>out of it...  but they do it for the good of our country, just as
>>>>>>>the UK, Australian, or South African (yes Hanif) would, and don't
>>>>>>>think they wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:17:22 -0400
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>Members
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) are
>>>>>>>>the Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you:
>>>>>>>>how many of those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How
>>>>>>>>many were saved by American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about
>>>>>>>>the good we have done over there, only the bad because it sells
>>>>>>>>better.  Are you telling me that it was okay to let Sadam keep
>>>>>>>>killing his own people, as long as it was not US doing the
>>>>>>>>killing? Do you think we should go in and help Africa, namely
>>>>>>>>Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by
>>>>>>>>people and my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the
>>>>>>>>difference? People attack Bush for not helping other areas, but
>>>>>>>>if he did, you know as well as I that when a perfect solution was
>>>>>>>>not realized within a year or two the exact same thing would
>>>>>>>>happen as is happening with Iraq now.
>>>>>>>>No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had
>>>>>>>>the time to go through them all.  Besides, those types of links
>>>>>>>>are like gathering evidence against abortion from sites where
>>>>>>>>only people who regret abortion write; it is extremely bias.  I
>>>>>>>>do not see how you can provide evidence against war by using
>>>>>>>>groups like Veterans for Peace; of course they are against the
>>>>>>>>war, they have fought a war and want peace.  It kind of makes
>>>>>>>>sense, huh?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>Alex
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>Members
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dear Person
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives?  Do
>>>>>>>>you say
>>>>>>>>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
>>>>>>>>land of Iraq?
>>>>>>>>>Did Iraq attack you?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
>>>>>>>>for the most
>>>>>>>>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there.  Note that
>>>>>>>>young
>>>>>>>>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
>>>>>>>>kind for
>>>>>>>>>standing up for justice.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more?  $3.7 for one
>>>>>>>>Kuwayti
>>>>>>>>>Dinar.  You are doing something wrong, somewhere.  Start by
>>>>>>>>looking at
>>>>>>>>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Courage To Resist
>>>>>>>>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>>>>>>>>http://www.gsfp.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>>>>>>>>http://www.ivaw.net/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Military Families Speak Out
>>>>>>>>>http://www.mfso.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>>>>>>>>http://www.vaiw.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>>>>>>>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Veterans for Peace
>>>>>>>>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>>>>>>>>http://www.vvaw.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>>>>>>>>http://vvaf.org/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>VotersForPeace
>>>>>>>>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hanif Kruger
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>Members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>>>>>>>>> especially the people that keep my country free.  I am part of
>>>>>>>>the Civil
>>>>>>>>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
>>>>>>>>Air Force
>>>>>>>>>> as I can get.  It has given me many opportunities, though, and
>>>>>>>>my best
>>>>>>>>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
>>>>>>>>stranger to the
>>>>>>>>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
>>>>>>>>-women
>>>>>>>>>> should take a turn serving.  As far as Iyana's comment about
>>>>>>>>soldiers
>>>>>>>>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
>>>>>>>>What about
>>>>>>>>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
>>>>>>>>"But who are
>>>>>>>>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying.  I think that
>>>>>>>>all humans
>>>>>>>>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
>>>>>>>>3,000
>>>>>>>>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
>>>>>>>>children into
>>>>>>>>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
>>>>>>>>people just
>>>>>>>>>> because they do not believe the same things you do.  "But you
>>>>>>>>just said
>>>>>>>>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
>>>>>>>>because they do
>>>>>>>>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite.  When someone
>>>>>>>>lives a life
>>>>>>>>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
>>>>>>>>consider them
>>>>>>>>>> an enemy.  Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
>>>>>>>>for a few
>>>>>>>>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
>>>>>>>>murderers
>>>>>>>>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
>>>>>>>>the world
>>>>>>>>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
>>>>>>>>Go ahead
>>>>>>>>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
>>>>>>>>watch
>>>>>>>>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
>>>>>>>>to come
>>>>>>>>>> back with a response of my own.  For the record, I believe in
>>>>>>>>capital
>>>>>>>>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
>>>>>>>>military, in
>>>>>>>>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
>>>>>>>>sanctity of
>>>>>>>>>> life (when deserved), and in God.  I will end this here before I
>>>>>>>>think of
>>>>>>>>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
>>>>>>>>agree with
>>>>>>>>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
>>>>>>>>case that is
>>>>>>>>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>>>>>>>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>>>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>>>>>>>>> thank you hahaha!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed.  I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>>>>>>>>> shits
>>>>>>>>>>>> about it.  And I'm happy, too.  Makes me feel lighter not to
>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>> a damn.  Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now.  LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that's a generalization.  Though I believe there may be real
>>>>>>>>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>>>>>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Military
>>>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yo Sup
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are in the US military.  That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with anymore of your species.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lmfao
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Military
>>>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose.  Come up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.  I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story.  Plus,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives on the line for them.  It's been nice knowing everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place.  I will find some way to make sure that noone else I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever visits this site.  Have a good day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Squadron CAP, The United States Air Force Auxiliary
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Squadron CAP, The United States Air Force Auxiliary
http://www.happyhooligans.org
http://www.cap.gov
American Military University Student Sociology Major and Military History Minor
Bugles Across America
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Phone: 701-540-5555
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