[Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military Members
Nick Cocchiarella
tubacooch at gmail.com
Fri Jul 4 14:56:33 CDT 2008
Not arguing, just insulting.
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:13:07 +0200
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
Members
>Wow, you surely read through the site with speed.
congratulations.
>So, are all veterans in iraq your friends?
>I'm not arguing, but, most of you seem rather, stubborn? Brain
washed? If
>you don't like what I say, then, hell, at least take a breather
and don't
>get too excited when typing. Ask your docter, maybe their's some
drug to
>keep you calm, when responding to email. JJ
>Have a lovely day further.Hanif
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
Members
>> Because I am very good friends with a man who has served in
Iraq, and
>> another very good friend has served there with the army Rangers
as a
>> sniper.
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:20:51 +0200
>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>> Members
>>>Many of the US soldiers are still wet behind the ears; hardly out
>> of
>>>schooled, having been lied to about what they are fighting for.
>>>I'm not going to argue about intentions and such, since you
>> clearly have not
>>>read any of the sites wich I have suggested. Organizations that
>> are all
>>>against the occupation of Iraq. While I am at it, why don't you
>> go and
>>>listen to testomony by real men, real veterans that served in
>> Iraq? just go
>>>to http://www.WarComesHome.orgg
>>>If you going to comment any further, first do so after having
>> listened to
>>>the testomony on there.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:11 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>> Members
>>>>I know where they are coming from, I am simply saying that using
>>>>organizations like that to support an anti-war sentiment is like
>> asking for
>>>>support for gun control laws from people who hate guns.
>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Nick Cocchiarella <tubacooch at gmail.com
>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:35:11 -0500
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>> Members
>>>>>I actually can understand what those veterans are talking about,
>>>>>if I fought in world war II I would want world peace all my life.
>>>>>I'm sure it was a living hell for them, just as it was for their
>>>>>families, and the same rules apply for the soldiers and families
>>>>>of soldiers in Iraq today. Those soldiers aren't dying just
>>>>>because they were caught in a freak accident, they go there
>>>>>knowing what they are going to face, and they know that they will
>>>>>never be the same again once they come out of it, if they come
>>>>>out of it... but they do it for the good of our country, just as
>>>>>the UK, Australian, or South African (yes Hanif) would, and don't
>>>>>think they wouldn't.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:17:22 -0400
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>Members
>>>>>>Are you saying that we killed those civilians, who (I assume) are
>>>>>>the Iraqi civilians killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom? I ask you:
>>>>>>how many of those were killed by extremists and insurgents? How
>>>>>>many were saved by American soldiers? Oh yeah, no one talks about
>>>>>>the good we have done over there, only the bad because it sells
>>>>>>better. Are you telling me that it was okay to let Sadam keep
>>>>>>killing his own people, as long as it was not US doing the
>>>>>>killing? Do you think we should go in and help Africa, namely
>>>>>>Darfore (sorry for the spelling, I have only heard it spoken by
>>>>>>people and my computer, not seen it written)? If so, what is the
>>>>>>difference? People attack Bush for not helping other areas, but
>>>>>>if he did, you know as well as I that when a perfect solution was
>>>>>>not realized within a year or two the exact same thing would
>>>>>>happen as is happening with Iraq now.
>>>>>>No, I have not read the links yet, mainly because I have not had
>>>>>>the time to go through them all. Besides, those types of links
>>>>>>are like gathering evidence against abortion from sites where
>>>>>>only people who regret abortion write; it is extremely bias. I
>>>>>>do not see how you can provide evidence against war by using
>>>>>>groups like Veterans for Peace; of course they are against the
>>>>>>war, they have fought a war and want peace. It kind of makes
>>>>>>sense, huh?
>>>>>>Have a great day,
>>>>>>Alex
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:24 +0200
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>Members
>>>>>>>Dear Person
>>>>>>>how do you justify the killing of 1.1 million civilian lives? Do
>>>>>>you say
>>>>>>>that 3000 "thousand" americans died so now you may invade the
>>>>>>land of Iraq?
>>>>>>>Did Iraq attack you?
>>>>>>>Do yourself a favour, and read those links that I have posted.
>>>>>>>Just for your benefit, I will post them again, below.
>>>>>>>And read them, actually, realize that these are people who are
>>>>>>for the most
>>>>>>>part ashamed of what they are forced to do over there. Note that
>>>>>>young
>>>>>>>people are being brain washed and yes, even merdered by their own
>>>>>>kind for
>>>>>>>standing up for justice.
>>>>>>>Would you like the price of oil to rise some more? $3.7 for one
>>>>>>Kuwayti
>>>>>>>Dinar. You are doing something wrong, somewhere. Start by
>>>>>>looking at
>>>>>>>yourself before invading other countries for corporate benefit.
>>>>>>>Here follow the list of links I've posted before.
>>>>>>>Courage To Resist
>>>>>>>http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/
>>>>>>>Gold Star Families for Peace
>>>>>>>http://www.gsfp.org/
>>>>>>>Iraq Veterans Against the War
>>>>>>>http://www.ivaw.net/
>>>>>>>Military Families Speak Out
>>>>>>>http://www.mfso.org/
>>>>>>>Veterans Against the Iraq War
>>>>>>>http://www.vaiw.org/
>>>>>>>Veterans for Common Sense
>>>>>>>http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/
>>>>>>>Veterans for Peace
>>>>>>>http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
>>>>>>>Vietnam Veterans Against the War
>>>>>>>http://www.vvaw.org/
>>>>>>>Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
>>>>>>>http://vvaf.org/
>>>>>>>VotersForPeace
>>>>>>>http://www.votersforpeace.us/
>>>>>>>And as usual, Take care and have a lovely day further.
>>>>>>>Hanif Kruger
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap at gwi.net
>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>Members
>>>>>>>> What do you do for the military? I am not into attacking anyone,
>>>>>>>> especially the people that keep my country free. I am part of
>>>>>>the Civil
>>>>>>>> Air Patrol, which is, because of my blindness, as close to the
>>>>>>Air Force
>>>>>>>> as I can get. It has given me many opportunities, though, and
>>>>>>my best
>>>>>>>> friend's father returned from Iraq last year, so I am no
>>>>>>stranger to the
>>>>>>>> military and feel that people that attack our service- men and
>>>>>>-women
>>>>>>>> should take a turn serving. As far as Iyana's comment about
>>>>>>soldiers
>>>>>>>> being mindless killing machines: what about military chaplains?
>>>>>>What about
>>>>>>>> the people that are in the military to rid the world of evil?
>>>>>>"But who are
>>>>>>>> you to say what is evil," I can hear you saying. I think that
>>>>>>all humans
>>>>>>>> have a basic understanding of good and evil; it is evil to kill
>>>>>>3,000
>>>>>>>> civilians in an unprovoked attack; it is evil to brainwash
>>>>>>children into
>>>>>>>> putting on bombs and blowing up civilians; it is evil to kill
>>>>>>people just
>>>>>>>> because they do not believe the same things you do. "But you
>>>>>>just said
>>>>>>>> that killing 'enemies' is good, but they are only enemies
>>>>>>because they do
>>>>>>>> not believe the same things we do." Not quite. When someone
>>>>>>lives a life
>>>>>>>> according to the rules of evil instead of those of good, I
>>>>>>consider them
>>>>>>>> an enemy. Just as I do not think that killers should be jailed
>>>>>>for a few
>>>>>>>> years and then given another chance, I do not believe that the
>>>>>>murderers
>>>>>>>> and their associates over in the Middle East and elsewhere in
>>>>>>the world
>>>>>>>> should be given a slap on the wrist, a Bible, and a free pass.
>>>>>>Go ahead
>>>>>>>> and attack me all you want, I actually find it rather amusing to
>>>>>>watch
>>>>>>>> people tear down what I say, and it is quite the mental exercise
>>>>>>to come
>>>>>>>> back with a response of my own. For the record, I believe in
>>>>>>capital
>>>>>>>> punishment, in the war in Iraq, in the War on Terror, in our
>>>>>>military, in
>>>>>>>> the United States as a nation, and, at the same time, in the
>>>>>>sanctity of
>>>>>>>> life (when deserved), and in God. I will end this here before I
>>>>>>think of
>>>>>>>> something else to ramble about, but know that while I may not
>>>>>>agree with
>>>>>>>> others' opinions I do listen to them and, if they can make a
>>>>>>case that is
>>>>>>>> well supported, I may even agree with them.
>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>>>>>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>>>>>>>To: users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:53 -0500
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>>>>>>God forsaken huh? Well God has saved me plent of times on duty
>>>>>>>> thank you hahaha!
>>>>>>>>>On 02/07/2008, Iyana Kellerman <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Lol hanif, so agreed. I've decided I'm sick of accommodating
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> emotions of everyone else around me so now I don't give two
>>>>>>>> shits
>>>>>>>>>> about it. And I'm happy, too. Makes me feel lighter not to
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> a damn. Well, I'm not quite that mean, but it's a long story.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit PO-ED and happy about it right now. LOL
>>>>>>>>>> And by the way, maybe all people in this godforsaken military
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> a subhuman species that are made as mindless killing machines.
>>>>>>>>>> No, that's a generalization. Though I believe there may be real
>>>>>>>>>> actual human subspecies out there that aren't quite as mindless
>>>>>>>>>> as some humans I could name, ah, let me shut up.
>>>>>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>>>>>>> Iyana
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Hanif Kruiger" <grr at kwagga.com
>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:28 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>>>>>>>>Yo Sup
>>>>>>>>>>>It's good to hear that you've been kicked off from the site.
>>>>>>>>>> Extra good for
>>>>>>>>>>>you are in the US military. That should not even be mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>> actually.
>>>>>>>>>>>Just because you are in a certain group, killing left and right,
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>exempt you from any rules or terms of services.
>>>>>>>>>>>And please, do tell all your friends to not join this site. I
>>>>>>>>>> can't deal
>>>>>>>>>>>with anymore of your species.
>>>>>>>>>>>Have a lovely day further.
>>>>>>>>>>>Lmfao
>>>>>>>>>>>Hanif
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Iyana Kellerman" <rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not because of that, it's just because there was a user
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> an incredibly long military name who created two accounts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore for reasons of the admins, they are banning people
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> incredibly long military names for that purpose. Come up with
>>>>>>>>>>>> something short, sweet, and to the point, and they might let you
>>>>>>>>>>>> on. I don't believe they got anything against the military,
>>>>>>>>>>>> except that Bush is an idiot, but that's another story. Plus,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's against the law for a website to discriminate against
>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> in any way on the Internet, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: alexandria davis <classicaltrumpetplayer at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:06:28 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Users] Protesting This Site Due to Banning Military
>>>>>>>>>>>> Members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have noticed that anyone who is in the military on this site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>> has anything to do with it is directly and quickly banned. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope that all who support the military will stop using this
>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe a site has such hatred for people who put their
>>>>>>>>>>>> lives on the line for them. It's been nice knowing everyone for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a day or so, but I will have no more to do with this hateful
>>>>>>>>>>>> place. I will find some way to make sure that noone else I know
>>>>>>>>>>>> ever visits this site. Have a good day.
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