[Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think Or BeEaten-By Ang

[Iyana Kellerman]

I shall have a one-word reply:
LOL.
Iyana

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>From: "Hanif Kruger" <grr at kwagga.com
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Or BeEaten-By Ang

>don't forget those pills, hay.  smirks.
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>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
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Or Be
>Eaten-By Ang


>> No, it's all I want to take the time to say.  And yes, I will 
have a
>> lovely day, because soldiers are fighting for the freedom for me 
to
>> enjoy it thank you.  Now.  I have to go do something worthwhile 
and get
>> packed for Air Force Aux training.

>> On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>>> Is that all you can say?  Wow, what an intelligent response.

>>> Have a lovely day further.

>>> Hanif Kruger
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>> To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think 
Or Be
>>> Eaten-
>>> By Ang


>>>> Bunch of liberals.

>>>> On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>>>>> Something I've learned over the last few years is that there 
really is
>>>>> such
>>>>> a thing as evil in this world.  True, sheer evil.

>>>>> I've also learned that all evil is perpetrated by force; and 
that can
>>>>> be
>>>>> physical violence or it can be intellectual violence, i.e.  by 
deceit
>>>>> and
>>>>> deception.
>>>>> Lies.  Lies are every bit as much a form of violence as guns, 
clubs and
>>>>> bombs
>>>>> because just like physical violence, lies are used to violate 
someone
>>>>> else's
>>>>> free will and free choice.

>>>>> The reality is that the violence of lies is infinitely more 
common than
>>>>> physical violence.  There's just no contest there.  Lies are the 
single
>>>>> most
>>>>> prevalent form of violence in our country today, and that 
intellectual
>>>>> violence is taking a serious toll.

>>>>> What is violence and why is violence used? It is used as a means 
to an
>>>>> end.
>>>>> More specifically it is the quickest way to get what you want 
from
>>>>> somebody
>>>>> else.  You can either just shoot someone and take what you want 
or you
>>>>> can
>>>>> lie them out of what they have that you want, either way, you 
achieve
>>>>> the
>>>>> goal of getting what you want from somebody else.  Lying is the 
means to
>>>>> perpetrate a robbery or theft.  Just like a mugging in a dark 
alley,
>>>>> individuals and
>>>>> nations alike are violently attacked with the aim of destroying 
the
>>>>> true
>>>>> owners of something to take what they own for yourself.

>>>>> The mere threat of using violence against somebody is often 
enough to
>>>>> get
>>>>> them to hand over the desired things.  It works well because 
everybody
>>>>> knows
>>>>> what
>>>>> violence is and nobody wants to be violated, which is exactly 
what
>>>>> violence
>>>>> is.  It is violating another person.  It's using whatever 
superior tools
>>>>> or
>>>>> strength or advantages you posses to harm, or threaten to harm 
another
>>>>> with
>>>>> the aim of taking something that belongs to them and that you 
have no
>>>>> right
>>>>> to take.  It means over riding the free will and free choice of 
another
>>>>> person and to force your own will on them, so that you can have 
it your
>>>>> way.
>>>>> And that's just
>>>>> wrong.

>>>>> Depriving others of the God given right of having free choice 
over
>>>>> their
>>>>> own
>>>>> lives, bodies and property is the very definition of what we 
think of
>>>>> as
>>>>> crime.  That is the DNA behind all crime, that's the reason that 
we even
>>>>> have
>>>>> the concept of crime.  Forcefully depriving another of their 
free will
>>>>> is
>>>>> what all
>>>>> crime is.  It violates a person in the most serious, egregious 
ways.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> an
>>>>> insult that goes very deep into the psyche of any victim of 
violence,
>>>>> physical
>>>>> or intellectual.

>>>>> Victims of violence do feel violated.  They feel the terror of
>>>>> powerlessness
>>>>> over their own lives.  They feel the horrible loss of control 
over their
>>>>> own
>>>>> fate.  The overwhelming insult of not having any choice in 
matters
>>>>> regarding
>>>>> their own life and best interests.  They are reduced to 
irrelevance
>>>>> because
>>>>> of the appetites and will of their attackers.

>>>>> Being made to feel irrelevant is probably the most damaging 
experience
>>>>> that
>>>>> any human being can go through.  It's the worst feeling in the 
world to
>>>>> suddenly become nothing and no one as far as some dominating, 
violent
>>>>> others
>>>>> are concerned.  To be deprived of the obligatory recognition of 
your
>>>>> sentience and inherent right to be treated as an equal to other 
human
>>>>> beings
>>>>> is to feel one's own life being negated, as if it had no 
meaning,
>>>>> importance
>>>>> or significance.  There is no greater insult and no greater harm 
that
>>>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>> perpetrated on another.

>>>>> To become nothing more than the extension of another man's will 
is to
>>>>> become
>>>>> a slave or an object, and we are not slaves or objects.  We are 
equals
>>>>> with
>>>>> the same human rights in this world, and we all deserve to 
retain our
>>>>> dignity and sovereignty at all times.  No one has a right to 
take those
>>>>> things from us.  When they do take those things they defy known 
reality
>>>>> and
>>>>> relegate us to a realm of confused suffering, and permanent 
damage that
>>>>> cannot be undone or recompensed.

>>>>> The only way anyone can make you feel that way is by violating 
you,
>>>>> depriving you of your dignity and personal sovereignty, and this 
is why
>>>>> the
>>>>> concept
>>>>> of simple respect for others is such an important thing.  It's a 
huge
>>>>> thing.
>>>>> In fact I'd have to say it's the biggest thing there is.

>>>>> In a decent world we would all agree to respect the others in 
our lives
>>>>> and
>>>>> all over the world.  We would comprehend the simple fact that 
those
>>>>> others

>>>>> do
>>>>> not owe us anything.  They don't owe us their prosperity or 
their lives.
>>>>> They
>>>>> don't owe us their property or their rights.  They are not in 
any way
>>>>> obligated to do as we desire so that we may feel happy.

>>>>> The only people who think the opposite is true are the people in 
this
>>>>> world
>>>>> who are truly evil.  They are the criminals who commit all the 
worst
>>>>> crimes
>>>>> in this world.  Although those crimes can take many forms the 
bottom
>>>>> line
>>>>> is
>>>>> that it's always the same crime being committed, the crime of 
depriving
>>>>> another of their free will and their right to determine their 
own fate
>>>>> and
>>>>> their own life choices, whether or not anyone else happens to 
like
>>>>> those
>>>>> choices.  It's just not our call to make for anyone else.

>>>>> That's where we run into problems because there are a great many
>>>>> people,
>>>>> people who think of themselves as upright, good people, 
religious
>>>>> people
>>>>> even, who will not agree that everyone has the same right to 
self
>>>>> determination in this world.  Right off the bat, that attitude 
is
>>>>> criminal.

>>>>> The Liar's Toolbox

>>>>> Today there is much killing of innocents happening in the name 
of the
>>>>> good
>>>>> guys vs.  the bad guys, but what is never called to account is 
who
>>>>> defines
>>>>> good and bad.  Without exception it is never a simple case of 
good guys
>>>>> versus bad guys; it is in fact a case of aggressors calling the 
others
>>>>> bad
>>>>> because those others are not doing what is desired by the 
aggressor.
>>>>> They
>>>>> are the legal owners of lands and resources the aggressor 
covets, they
>>>>> exist
>>>>> in the way of the aggressors and in blatant contradiction to 
false
>>>>> claims

>>>>> to
>>>>> ownership of the land and its resources.  The others who have 
what the
>>>>> aggressors want are always automatically the bad guys, and 
that's
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> but a big fat lie.  It's hypocrisy.  And that's always attached 
to lies.
>>>>> Hypocrisy is one of the main tools in the liar's toolbox.

>>>>> Hypocrisy is when we believe we deserve to have free will but we 
refuse
>>>>> to
>>>>> extend the same human right to others.  This is a very important 
tool in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Liar's toolbox.  It is used to try to justify violence against 
others
>>>>> with
>>>>> all manner of lies and excuses, like religious differences, 
racial
>>>>> differences, any kind of differences will be used to try to 
justify
>>>>> perpetrating violence against others when we want what belongs 
to them.
>>>>> Where ever there is hypocrisy there is lying going on and the 
sad
>>>>> reality
>>>>> will be that a lot of good people will have bought in to those 
lies and
>>>>> will
>>>>> be an opposing force to the truth.  They will not be able to see 
their
>>>>> own
>>>>> hypocrisy.  Hypocrisy is a serious, dangerous sin and it's one 
we should
>>>>> add
>>>>> to the list of things we want to find
>>>>> in ourselves and do away with.

>>>>> Another item in the Liar's Toolbox is indifference.  Sometimes 
called
>>>>> depraved indifference the meaning is simple enough to gather.  
When we
>>>>> are
>>>>> indifferent to the suffering of others we are committing a crime 
of
>>>>> violence
>>>>> against them.  When big corporations or governments take steps 
in their
>>>>> own
>>>>> self interests that result in harm being done to others, 
directly or
>>>>> indirectly, they know it.  That they proceed anyway makes it 
criminal.

>>>>> Failing to notice or consider that our actions harm others is 
not an
>>>>> excuse
>>>>> and it cannot be justified.  Saying they just didn't know, or 
worse,
>>>>> framing
>>>>> and promoting illicit depraved concepts like "collateral damage" 
is no
>>>>> excuse either.  There is no such thing as lives that don't 
matter.

>>>>> No matter what claims are being made to justify violence in the 
name of
>>>>> self
>>>>> interest, there is no justification.  When we are led to believe
>>>>> otherwise
>>>>> that in itself is a crime being perpetrated on all of us.  We 
are being
>>>>> insulted every bit as much as their innocent victims.  The 
message is
>>>>> that
>>>>> others don't matter in the name of their personal goals and 
desires,
>>>>> and
>>>>> that's invalid on its face.  Others always matter and life 
always
>>>>> matters
>>>>> more than any ideology or game plan.  More than any government's 
desire
>>>>> for
>>>>> power and prestige, more than any corporation's greed and 
psychotic
>>>>> lust
>>>>> for
>>>>> endless expansion.  Those things in fact and in reality are 
worthless up
>>>>> against human life and well being.  Pretending otherwise is 
always and
>>>>> only a
>>>>> lie.

>>>>> It's Not Just About Stuff

>>>>> We're encouraged to believe that crime is all about property and
>>>>> ownership
>>>>> rights, and that there can be no crimes without property or life 
being
>>>>> involved but that's only seeing the peel and missing the entire 
banana
>>>>> beneath it.  Every dishonest contract, every con job, every 
petty theft,
>>>>> every rape or act of child molestation, every bogus war we're 
led into
>>>>> based
>>>>> on lies, is always about depriving people of something that's
>>>>> rightfully
>>>>> and
>>>>> only theirs.  That can be property, rights, dignity, life or 
limb,
>>>>> freedom

>>>>> of
>>>>> choice, or even the information needed to make the best 
decisions.
>>>>> Again,
>>>>> all of that boils down to overriding the free will of others.  
These are
>>>>> all
>>>>> forms of violence, ways of violating the human birthright to 
have free
>>>>> will
>>>>> and freedom of choice in all things pertaining to our own lives,
>>>>> persons,
>>>>> and property.

>>>>> Violence used at any other time than in literal, imminent self 
defense
>>>>> from
>>>>> a violent attacker is criminal.  It is unnecessary and 
unjustified.  Yet
>>>>> it

>>>>> is
>>>>> prevalent and it is everywhere, from behind the closed doors of 
private
>>>>> homes to out in the open in the streets, the kinds of violence 
of wars
>>>>> and
>>>>> political unrest.  Take Africa for example and the carnage going 
on
>>>>> there.
>>>>> It's all completely unjustified, it's criminal, people are 
getting hurt
>>>>> and
>>>>> dying and there is no end in sight.  No good comes of this way 
of
>>>>> getting
>>>>> what you want at the expense of others without the consent of 
all
>>>>> involved.

>>>>> There is no need to fund and instigate the social crisis there, 
which
>>>>> is
>>>>> what is being done by powerful, wealthy corporations and their
>>>>> copartners

>>>>> in
>>>>> governments.  It is being done to consume the rich resources of 
that
>>>>> land
>>>>> for
>>>>> the benefit of those who already have more than enough, so that 
they
>>>>> can
>>>>> have even more for themselves.  Greed is not good.  It is just 
another
>>>>> weapon
>>>>> in the liars toolbox.  Greed is always fed with the blood of 
innocent
>>>>> people
>>>>> and it is a crime.

>>>>> Depriving others of what's rightfully theirs is what it always 
boils
>>>>> down

>>>>> to
>>>>> and that's why violence beyond literal, imminent self defense 
from a
>>>>> violent
>>>>> attacker is always criminal.  It can not be tolerated.  Not any 
more.  Not
>>>>> in
>>>>> the 21st Century.  It is long past time for humanity with its
>>>>> consciousness
>>>>> raised and its improved access to education to make the 
necessary
>>>>> spiritual/emotional/doctrinal adjustments to go along with that
>>>>> increased
>>>>> knowledge and awareness.  Meaning, it's time for us to change 
for the
>>>>> better.

>>>>> It's time for us now to take responsibility, which is what must 
be done
>>>>> when
>>>>> we become world aware and educated.  To posses and use knowledge 
without
>>>>> responsibility is an unforgivable failure.  It's also 
self-defeating
>>>>> because
>>>>> it enables that which is not true to dominate us.

>>>>> Honesty isn't just the best public policy, it's the only public 
policy
>>>>> because dishonesty is literally a criminal act.  It's an act of 
violence
>>>>> because it violates the peoples right to exercise their free 
will.  It
>>>>> undermines our ability to make intelligent, meaningful choices 
for
>>>>> ourselves
>>>>> by giving us
>>>>> false information and forcing false perspectives on us that will 
lead
>>>>> us
>>>>> to
>>>>> draw conclusions based on that false information.  The public 
will then
>>>>> be
>>>>> infinitely more likely to agree to whatever the liar or liars 
want.
>>>>> That's
>>>>> every bit as violent as holding a gun to our heads, it's just 
not
>>>>> recognized
>>>>> as such, and that's no accident.  It's so obvious as to be 
painful, yet
>>>>> how
>>>>> many of us have ever made the connection? They're taking what 
they want
>>>>> by
>>>>> force and we can't even see it anymore, we expect no less.

>>>>> We tend to think of violence only in terms of physical things, 
blood,
>>>>> bullet
>>>>> wounds, physical harm.  But being lied to can do equal damage to 
our
>>>>> minds
>>>>> and souls, and can and does cause terrible harm and injury to 
the
>>>>> collective
>>>>> consciousness of mankind.

>>>>> We're living in a society which, at this moment in time, is 
being
>>>>> controlled
>>>>> and dominated by people who have no respect for others.  By 
people who
>>>>> by
>>>>> the
>>>>> very nature of how they think and act are criminals.  There's no 
wiggle
>>>>> room
>>>>> here, it's quite simple when you stop to remember that the 
essence of
>>>>> crime
>>>>> is depriving others of their free will and their right to act in 
their
>>>>> own
>>>>> best interests.  Those who dominate our reality right now are 
master
>>>>> liars,
>>>>> and
>>>>> the damage they are perpetrating has no historical equivalent in 
this
>>>>> country.  The destruction they're wreaking is total and we're 
only
>>>>> beginning
>>>>> to see the tip of the iceberg.  By the time they're done there 
won't be
>>>>> much
>>>>> left standing, and a whole lot of people are going to suffer, 
and a
>>>>> whole
>>>>> lot of people are going to die.  You tell me what's not criminal 
about
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Everything about it is criminal.

>>>>> These controllers have managed to get a dominant foothold into 
every
>>>>> major
>>>>> aspect of society.  The justice system, the departments of 
government,
>>>>> the
>>>>> church, public and higher education have all been infiltrated 
and are
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> process of being ideologically raped.  They own and control the 
media
>>>>> and
>>>>> they do this with the specific purpose of being able to withhold 
the
>>>>> truth
>>>>> about themselves and what they do, what they want and how 
they're
>>>>> getting
>>>>> what they want,
>>>>> from the public.  You can't even buy TV time today if you have a
>>>>> different
>>>>> perspective than the one they want to dominate the public 
consciousness
>>>>> with.  They can't afford the truth going out to the people 
because they
>>>>> know
>>>>> the people would never agree to go along with them.  Therefore, 
they
>>>>> either
>>>>> have to shoot us all, which simply isn't possible, or they have 
to
>>>>> violate
>>>>> our consciousness with an endless stream of lies to make us want 
to go
>>>>> along
>>>>> with them.  And they're experts at this.  And we pay them to do 
it and
>>>>> they
>>>>> use our money to do it to us.

>>>>> Every aspect of how they operate is an insult and a violation of 
the
>>>>> public's right to choose in their own behalf.  We can no longer 
make
>>>>> appropriate choices because we no longer have access to all of 
the
>>>>> information, to truth, or to all of the sides to any story.  All 
we will
>>>>> ever
>>>>> hear again as long as the media laws stay the same is only what 
they
>>>>> want

>>>>> us
>>>>> to hear.

>>>>> We have only to look around us to gauge the numbers of innocent 
people
>>>>> dying
>>>>> both here and abroad to get an accurate idea of just how much 
evil has
>>>>> managed to insinuate itself into our minds and lives.  We have 
only to
>>>>> witness the metamorphosis of ordinary men who once upheld our 
laws to
>>>>> protect us, into militarized, soulless, dishonest inhuman robot 
killers
>>>>> and
>>>>> thugs to recognize that evil is transforming our society from 
its very
>>>>> roots
>>>>> and defining principles into its exact mirror opposite.  We are 
being
>>>>> turned
>>>>> into everything we claim to hate and would risk our lives to 
fight
>>>>> against,
>>>>> and we no longer seem capable
>>>>> of recognizing it.

>>>>> Our laws are quickly being changed from things that protect our 
God
>>>>> given
>>>>> right to exercise our free will without encumbrance from power 
and
>>>>> privilege, into things which give all permission to power and 
privilege
>>>>> to
>>>>> encumber us and prevent us from living in freedom.  The lie is 
that it
>>>>> is
>>>>> being done to secure us, but we are not secure.  We could never 
be kept
>>>>> safe
>>>>> by anyone, and especially not by a government so obsessed with 
secrecy,
>>>>> so
>>>>> disdainful of
>>>>> being bound by the laws that bind the rest of us, and so 
unconcerned
>>>>> with
>>>>> our core principles of protecting every individual from violence 
and
>>>>> interference
>>>>> by the government into their private lives.  This government 
represents
>>>>> everything we once fought to be free of, and then some.

>>>>> They use every form of violence and force conceivable, and have 
many
>>>>> others
>>>>> being developed, most of which are further insults to freedom 
and free
>>>>> will.
>>>>> All of them have the intended goal of depriving us of even more
>>>>> freedom,
>>>>> of
>>>>> our right to speak openly about what we see happening, of our 
hope and
>>>>> expectation that justice will be done and that they will be made 
to
>>>>> stop.
>>>>> Now that they are making the rules they will not stop.  We are 
drowning
>>>>> in

>>>>> a
>>>>> sea of lies.

>>>>> When lies dominate us then evil dominates our society.  We are 
willingly
>>>>> or
>>>>> unwillingly forced to be complicit in the actions that evil 
desires to
>>>>> carry
>>>>> out.  And it will always desire to perpetrate the greatest 
possible
>>>>> evils
>>>>> it
>>>>> can get away with.  It spells the destruction of centuries of 
hard work
>>>>> and
>>>>> struggle specifically to stop, control and prevent evil from 
taking
>>>>> over
>>>>> our
>>>>> government, our country and our private lives.  When lies are so 
common
>>>>> they
>>>>> become what feels normal and rational to us, we are certainly 
lost and
>>>>> it's
>>>>> only a matter of time before we'll have to pay the price of our
>>>>> ignorance
>>>>> and inability to discern something as simple as right from 
wrong.

>>>>> We are all victims of intellectual violence, and knowing right 
from
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> will always be the first thing to go, and the last thing we'll 
ever
>>>>> recognize.  Until it's far too late.

>>>>> source - http://ThinkOrBeEaten.Blogspot.com

>>>>> Regards

>>>>> Hanif Kruger



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