[Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think Or BeEaten-By Ang
Iyana Kellerman
rainbow.lafaye at gmail.com
Wed Jul 9 19:38:48 CDT 2008
Oh BTW, break in that sense is spelt b r e a k.
Have a nice, wonderful day in your precious mindless world. May
you have your wish of chaos and disorder, ruled by the idiots in
America. (N.)
Iyana
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
<alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>To: users at zonebbs.com
>Date sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:09:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think
Or BeEaten-By Ang
>mekawh at gmail.com
>You're the insulting one. Give it a freakin brake.
>On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>> don't forget those pills, hay. smirks.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>> To: <users at zonebbs.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think
Or Be
>> Eaten-By Ang
>>> No, it's all I want to take the time to say. And yes, I will
have a
>>> lovely day, because soldiers are fighting for the freedom for me
to
>>> enjoy it thank you. Now. I have to go do something worthwhile
and get
>>> packed for Air Force Aux training.
>>> On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>>>> Is that all you can say? Wow, what an intelligent response.
>>>> Have a lovely day further.
>>>> Hanif Kruger
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Davis,Alexandria SM CAP 119 ND/WG ANG CDT SQ"
>>>> <alexdavis at honorguardbugler.com
>>>> To: <users at zonebbs.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Intellectual Violence - article from Think
Or Be
>>>> Eaten-
>>>> By Ang
>>>>> Bunch of liberals.
>>>>> On 04/07/2008, Hanif Kruger <grr at kwagga.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Something I've learned over the last few years is that there
really is
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> a thing as evil in this world. True, sheer evil.
>>>>>> I've also learned that all evil is perpetrated by force; and
that can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> physical violence or it can be intellectual violence, i.e. by
deceit
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> deception.
>>>>>> Lies. Lies are every bit as much a form of violence as guns,
clubs and
>>>>>> bombs
>>>>>> because just like physical violence, lies are used to violate
someone
>>>>>> else's
>>>>>> free will and free choice.
>>>>>> The reality is that the violence of lies is infinitely more
common than
>>>>>> physical violence. There's just no contest there. Lies are the
single
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> prevalent form of violence in our country today, and that
intellectual
>>>>>> violence is taking a serious toll.
>>>>>> What is violence and why is violence used? It is used as a means
to an
>>>>>> end.
>>>>>> More specifically it is the quickest way to get what you want
from
>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>> else. You can either just shoot someone and take what you want
or you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> lie them out of what they have that you want, either way, you
achieve
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> goal of getting what you want from somebody else. Lying is the
means to
>>>>>> perpetrate a robbery or theft. Just like a mugging in a dark
alley,
>>>>>> individuals and
>>>>>> nations alike are violently attacked with the aim of destroying
the
>>>>>> true
>>>>>> owners of something to take what they own for yourself.
>>>>>> The mere threat of using violence against somebody is often
enough to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> them to hand over the desired things. It works well because
everybody
>>>>>> knows
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> violence is and nobody wants to be violated, which is exactly
what
>>>>>> violence
>>>>>> is. It is violating another person. It's using whatever
superior tools
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> strength or advantages you posses to harm, or threaten to harm
another
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the aim of taking something that belongs to them and that you
have no
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> to take. It means over riding the free will and free choice of
another
>>>>>> person and to force your own will on them, so that you can have
it your
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>> And that's just
>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>> Depriving others of the God given right of having free choice
over
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> lives, bodies and property is the very definition of what we
think of
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> crime. That is the DNA behind all crime, that's the reason that
we even
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> the concept of crime. Forcefully depriving another of their
free will
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> what all
>>>>>> crime is. It violates a person in the most serious, egregious
ways.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> insult that goes very deep into the psyche of any victim of
violence,
>>>>>> physical
>>>>>> or intellectual.
>>>>>> Victims of violence do feel violated. They feel the terror of
>>>>>> powerlessness
>>>>>> over their own lives. They feel the horrible loss of control
over their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> fate. The overwhelming insult of not having any choice in
matters
>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>> their own life and best interests. They are reduced to
irrelevance
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> of the appetites and will of their attackers.
>>>>>> Being made to feel irrelevant is probably the most damaging
experience
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> any human being can go through. It's the worst feeling in the
world to
>>>>>> suddenly become nothing and no one as far as some dominating,
violent
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> are concerned. To be deprived of the obligatory recognition of
your
>>>>>> sentience and inherent right to be treated as an equal to other
human
>>>>>> beings
>>>>>> is to feel one's own life being negated, as if it had no
meaning,
>>>>>> importance
>>>>>> or significance. There is no greater insult and no greater harm
that
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> perpetrated on another.
>>>>>> To become nothing more than the extension of another man's will
is to
>>>>>> become
>>>>>> a slave or an object, and we are not slaves or objects. We are
equals
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the same human rights in this world, and we all deserve to
retain our
>>>>>> dignity and sovereignty at all times. No one has a right to
take those
>>>>>> things from us. When they do take those things they defy known
reality
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> relegate us to a realm of confused suffering, and permanent
damage that
>>>>>> cannot be undone or recompensed.
>>>>>> The only way anyone can make you feel that way is by violating
you,
>>>>>> depriving you of your dignity and personal sovereignty, and this
is why
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> concept
>>>>>> of simple respect for others is such an important thing. It's a
huge
>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>> In fact I'd have to say it's the biggest thing there is.
>>>>>> In a decent world we would all agree to respect the others in
our lives
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> all over the world. We would comprehend the simple fact that
those
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not owe us anything. They don't owe us their prosperity or
their lives.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> don't owe us their property or their rights. They are not in
any way
>>>>>> obligated to do as we desire so that we may feel happy.
>>>>>> The only people who think the opposite is true are the people in
this
>>>>>> world
>>>>>> who are truly evil. They are the criminals who commit all the
worst
>>>>>> crimes
>>>>>> in this world. Although those crimes can take many forms the
bottom
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> that it's always the same crime being committed, the crime of
depriving
>>>>>> another of their free will and their right to determine their
own fate
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> their own life choices, whether or not anyone else happens to
like
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> choices. It's just not our call to make for anyone else.
>>>>>> That's where we run into problems because there are a great many
>>>>>> people,
>>>>>> people who think of themselves as upright, good people,
religious
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> even, who will not agree that everyone has the same right to
self
>>>>>> determination in this world. Right off the bat, that attitude
is
>>>>>> criminal.
>>>>>> The Liar's Toolbox
>>>>>> Today there is much killing of innocents happening in the name
of the
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> guys vs. the bad guys, but what is never called to account is
who
>>>>>> defines
>>>>>> good and bad. Without exception it is never a simple case of
good guys
>>>>>> versus bad guys; it is in fact a case of aggressors calling the
others
>>>>>> bad
>>>>>> because those others are not doing what is desired by the
aggressor.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> are the legal owners of lands and resources the aggressor
covets, they
>>>>>> exist
>>>>>> in the way of the aggressors and in blatant contradiction to
false
>>>>>> claims
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> ownership of the land and its resources. The others who have
what the
>>>>>> aggressors want are always automatically the bad guys, and
that's
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> but a big fat lie. It's hypocrisy. And that's always attached
to lies.
>>>>>> Hypocrisy is one of the main tools in the liar's toolbox.
>>>>>> Hypocrisy is when we believe we deserve to have free will but we
refuse
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> extend the same human right to others. This is a very important
tool in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Liar's toolbox. It is used to try to justify violence against
others
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> all manner of lies and excuses, like religious differences,
racial
>>>>>> differences, any kind of differences will be used to try to
justify
>>>>>> perpetrating violence against others when we want what belongs
to them.
>>>>>> Where ever there is hypocrisy there is lying going on and the
sad
>>>>>> reality
>>>>>> will be that a lot of good people will have bought in to those
lies and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be an opposing force to the truth. They will not be able to see
their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is a serious, dangerous sin and it's one
we should
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> to the list of things we want to find
>>>>>> in ourselves and do away with.
>>>>>> Another item in the Liar's Toolbox is indifference. Sometimes
called
>>>>>> depraved indifference the meaning is simple enough to gather.
When we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> indifferent to the suffering of others we are committing a crime
of
>>>>>> violence
>>>>>> against them. When big corporations or governments take steps
in their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> self interests that result in harm being done to others,
directly or
>>>>>> indirectly, they know it. That they proceed anyway makes it
criminal.
>>>>>> Failing to notice or consider that our actions harm others is
not an
>>>>>> excuse
>>>>>> and it cannot be justified. Saying they just didn't know, or
worse,
>>>>>> framing
>>>>>> and promoting illicit depraved concepts like "collateral damage"
is no
>>>>>> excuse either. There is no such thing as lives that don't
matter.
>>>>>> No matter what claims are being made to justify violence in the
name of
>>>>>> self
>>>>>> interest, there is no justification. When we are led to believe
>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> that in itself is a crime being perpetrated on all of us. We
are being
>>>>>> insulted every bit as much as their innocent victims. The
message is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> others don't matter in the name of their personal goals and
desires,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> that's invalid on its face. Others always matter and life
always
>>>>>> matters
>>>>>> more than any ideology or game plan. More than any government's
desire
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> power and prestige, more than any corporation's greed and
psychotic
>>>>>> lust
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> endless expansion. Those things in fact and in reality are
worthless up
>>>>>> against human life and well being. Pretending otherwise is
always and
>>>>>> only a
>>>>>> lie.
>>>>>> It's Not Just About Stuff
>>>>>> We're encouraged to believe that crime is all about property and
>>>>>> ownership
>>>>>> rights, and that there can be no crimes without property or life
being
>>>>>> involved but that's only seeing the peel and missing the entire
banana
>>>>>> beneath it. Every dishonest contract, every con job, every
petty theft,
>>>>>> every rape or act of child molestation, every bogus war we're
led into
>>>>>> based
>>>>>> on lies, is always about depriving people of something that's
>>>>>> rightfully
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> only theirs. That can be property, rights, dignity, life or
limb,
>>>>>> freedom
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> choice, or even the information needed to make the best
decisions.
>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>> all of that boils down to overriding the free will of others.
These are
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> forms of violence, ways of violating the human birthright to
have free
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> and freedom of choice in all things pertaining to our own lives,
>>>>>> persons,
>>>>>> and property.
>>>>>> Violence used at any other time than in literal, imminent self
defense
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> a violent attacker is criminal. It is unnecessary and
unjustified. Yet
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> prevalent and it is everywhere, from behind the closed doors of
private
>>>>>> homes to out in the open in the streets, the kinds of violence
of wars
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> political unrest. Take Africa for example and the carnage going
on
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> It's all completely unjustified, it's criminal, people are
getting hurt
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> dying and there is no end in sight. No good comes of this way
of
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> what you want at the expense of others without the consent of
all
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>> There is no need to fund and instigate the social crisis there,
which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> what is being done by powerful, wealthy corporations and their
>>>>>> copartners
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> governments. It is being done to consume the rich resources of
that
>>>>>> land
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the benefit of those who already have more than enough, so that
they
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> have even more for themselves. Greed is not good. It is just
another
>>>>>> weapon
>>>>>> in the liars toolbox. Greed is always fed with the blood of
innocent
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> and it is a crime.
>>>>>> Depriving others of what's rightfully theirs is what it always
boils
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> and that's why violence beyond literal, imminent self defense
from a
>>>>>> violent
>>>>>> attacker is always criminal. It can not be tolerated. Not any
more. Not
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the 21st Century. It is long past time for humanity with its
>>>>>> consciousness
>>>>>> raised and its improved access to education to make the
necessary
>>>>>> spiritual/emotional/doctrinal adjustments to go along with that
>>>>>> increased
>>>>>> knowledge and awareness. Meaning, it's time for us to change
for the
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>> It's time for us now to take responsibility, which is what must
be done
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> we become world aware and educated. To posses and use knowledge
without
>>>>>> responsibility is an unforgivable failure. It's also
self-defeating
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it enables that which is not true to dominate us.
>>>>>> Honesty isn't just the best public policy, it's the only public
policy
>>>>>> because dishonesty is literally a criminal act. It's an act of
violence
>>>>>> because it violates the peoples right to exercise their free
will. It
>>>>>> undermines our ability to make intelligent, meaningful choices
for
>>>>>> ourselves
>>>>>> by giving us
>>>>>> false information and forcing false perspectives on us that will
lead
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> draw conclusions based on that false information. The public
will then
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> infinitely more likely to agree to whatever the liar or liars
want.
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> every bit as violent as holding a gun to our heads, it's just
not
>>>>>> recognized
>>>>>> as such, and that's no accident. It's so obvious as to be
painful, yet
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> many of us have ever made the connection? They're taking what
they want
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> force and we can't even see it anymore, we expect no less.
>>>>>> We tend to think of violence only in terms of physical things,
blood,
>>>>>> bullet
>>>>>> wounds, physical harm. But being lied to can do equal damage to
our
>>>>>> minds
>>>>>> and souls, and can and does cause terrible harm and injury to
the
>>>>>> collective
>>>>>> consciousness of mankind.
>>>>>> We're living in a society which, at this moment in time, is
being
>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>> and dominated by people who have no respect for others. By
people who
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> very nature of how they think and act are criminals. There's no
wiggle
>>>>>> room
>>>>>> here, it's quite simple when you stop to remember that the
essence of
>>>>>> crime
>>>>>> is depriving others of their free will and their right to act in
their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> best interests. Those who dominate our reality right now are
master
>>>>>> liars,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the damage they are perpetrating has no historical equivalent in
this
>>>>>> country. The destruction they're wreaking is total and we're
only
>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>> to see the tip of the iceberg. By the time they're done there
won't be
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> left standing, and a whole lot of people are going to suffer,
and a
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> lot of people are going to die. You tell me what's not criminal
about
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> Everything about it is criminal.
>>>>>> These controllers have managed to get a dominant foothold into
every
>>>>>> major
>>>>>> aspect of society. The justice system, the departments of
government,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> church, public and higher education have all been infiltrated
and are
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> process of being ideologically raped. They own and control the
media
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they do this with the specific purpose of being able to withhold
the
>>>>>> truth
>>>>>> about themselves and what they do, what they want and how
they're
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> what they want,
>>>>>> from the public. You can't even buy TV time today if you have a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> perspective than the one they want to dominate the public
consciousness
>>>>>> with. They can't afford the truth going out to the people
because they
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> the people would never agree to go along with them. Therefore,
they
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> have to shoot us all, which simply isn't possible, or they have
to
>>>>>> violate
>>>>>> our consciousness with an endless stream of lies to make us want
to go
>>>>>> along
>>>>>> with them. And they're experts at this. And we pay them to do
it and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> use our money to do it to us.
>>>>>> Every aspect of how they operate is an insult and a violation of
the
>>>>>> public's right to choose in their own behalf. We can no longer
make
>>>>>> appropriate choices because we no longer have access to all of
the
>>>>>> information, to truth, or to all of the sides to any story. All
we will
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> hear again as long as the media laws stay the same is only what
they
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> to hear.
>>>>>> We have only to look around us to gauge the numbers of innocent
people
>>>>>> dying
>>>>>> both here and abroad to get an accurate idea of just how much
evil has
>>>>>> managed to insinuate itself into our minds and lives. We have
only to
>>>>>> witness the metamorphosis of ordinary men who once upheld our
laws to
>>>>>> protect us, into militarized, soulless, dishonest inhuman robot
killers
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> thugs to recognize that evil is transforming our society from
its very
>>>>>> roots
>>>>>> and defining principles into its exact mirror opposite. We are
being
>>>>>> turned
>>>>>> into everything we claim to hate and would risk our lives to
fight
>>>>>> against,
>>>>>> and we no longer seem capable
>>>>>> of recognizing it.
>>>>>> Our laws are quickly being changed from things that protect our
God
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> right to exercise our free will without encumbrance from power
and
>>>>>> privilege, into things which give all permission to power and
privilege
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> encumber us and prevent us from living in freedom. The lie is
that it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> being done to secure us, but we are not secure. We could never
be kept
>>>>>> safe
>>>>>> by anyone, and especially not by a government so obsessed with
secrecy,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> disdainful of
>>>>>> being bound by the laws that bind the rest of us, and so
unconcerned
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> our core principles of protecting every individual from violence
and
>>>>>> interference
>>>>>> by the government into their private lives. This government
represents
>>>>>> everything we once fought to be free of, and then some.
>>>>>> They use every form of violence and force conceivable, and have
many
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> being developed, most of which are further insults to freedom
and free
>>>>>> will.
>>>>>> All of them have the intended goal of depriving us of even more
>>>>>> freedom,
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> our right to speak openly about what we see happening, of our
hope and
>>>>>> expectation that justice will be done and that they will be made
to
>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>> Now that they are making the rules they will not stop. We are
drowning
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> sea of lies.
>>>>>> When lies dominate us then evil dominates our society. We are
willingly
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> unwillingly forced to be complicit in the actions that evil
desires to
>>>>>> carry
>>>>>> out. And it will always desire to perpetrate the greatest
possible
>>>>>> evils
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> can get away with. It spells the destruction of centuries of
hard work
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> struggle specifically to stop, control and prevent evil from
taking
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> government, our country and our private lives. When lies are so
common
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> become what feels normal and rational to us, we are certainly
lost and
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> only a matter of time before we'll have to pay the price of our
>>>>>> ignorance
>>>>>> and inability to discern something as simple as right from
wrong.
>>>>>> We are all victims of intellectual violence, and knowing right
from
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> will always be the first thing to go, and the last thing we'll
ever
>>>>>> recognize. Until it's far too late.
>>>>>> source - http://ThinkOrBeEaten.Blogspot.com
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Hanif Kruger
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Senior Member Tech Admin Officer 119th Air National Guard Cadet
>>>>> Squadron CAP, The United States Air Force Auxiliary
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